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Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby jsmith2307 » Thu 12. Sep 2013, 18:59

Greetings, :D
I’ve purchased a pair (they can be returned) of Dimension Engineering, SyRen 50s. At first glance they appear like they might work with the Tronic’s 1.6 motion controller. It has DIP switch and can handle Serial, in both a packet mode and a simplified mode. The question is which would I use, or are these things not compatible with my motion contoller amc 1.6?

Product Description:
The SyRen motor driver is one of the most versatile, efficient and easy to use motor drivers on the market.
Out of the box, the SyRen 50 can supply a single DC brushed motor with up to 50A continuously. Peak currents of 100A are achievable for a few seconds.
Overcurrent and thermal protection means you'll never have to worry about killing the driver with accidental stalls or by hooking up too big a motor.
With just one SyRen driver you can control a motor with: analog voltage, radio control, serial and packetized serial. You can build many different robots of increasing complexity for years to come with a SyRen.
The operating mode is set with the onboard DIP switches so there are no jumpers to lose. The SyRen features screw terminal connectors - making it possible for you to build a robot without even soldering.
SyRen is the first synchronous regenerative motor driver in its class. The regenerative topology means that your batteries get recharged whenever you command your robot to slow down or reverse. SyRen also allows you to make very fast stops and reverses - giving your robot a quick and nimble edge.
SyRen has a built in 5V BEC that can provide power to a microcontroller or R/C receiver. The lithium cutoff mode allows SyRen to operate safely with lithium ion and lithium polymer battery packs - the highest energy density batteries available.
SyRen's transistors are switched at ultrasonic speeds (32kHz), meaning no one will be able to hear your robot ninja army approaching.
Use of our motor drivers with cheap AC adapters is not recommended. Use a battery or at least put a battery in parallel with a DC supply.
Servo pigtails are available here.
Product Specs
Model: SyRen 50
Specifications: 50A continuous, 100A peak
6-30V nominal, 33.6V absolute maximum

Synchronous regenerative drive
Ultra-sonic switching frequency
Thermal and overcurrent protection
Lithium protection mode

Input modes: Analog, R/C, simplified serial, packetized serial

Size: 3.0” x 3.5” x 1.3”
76.5 x 89 x 33 mm
Applications: Combat robots up to 80lb
Normal and hobby robots up to 250lb
Differential drive robots
Electric vehicles, ride-on toys, scooters

Easy speed/direction control for pumps, conveyors, automation and any application that uses a brushed DC motor
Documentation: SyRen50.doc (3.3mb)
SyRen50.pdf (2.0mb)
Quick start guide.doc
Quick start guide.pdf
SyRen DIP switch wizard
Motor driver efficiency comparison
DEScribe Manual
Software: Arduino Libraries
.NET (C#, VB) Library
DEScribe PC Software
Application notes: Using a SyRen with an ATX (or similar) DC power supply

Controlling a SyRen with a BASIC Stamp II
Customer projects: Simple Serial Mode test using PICBASIC

Simple Serial Mode controlled with a pot using PICBASIC


I need a high degree of amp protection because of the initial start of the 24 volt wheelchair motor’ (40 amps).
I was using the Pololu high powerd motor driver 24volts 23 amp, and it worked until I got into a stall....then all hell broke loose!
I had multiple conversations with Charleen at support/dimenson engineering and been assured it can work. I've been working on this thing for a week all I get are jerks and angry sounds from the motor. Can anybody lend a hand?
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Re: Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby telfel » Thu 12. Sep 2013, 19:38

Hi js

I have been testing the Sabertooth 2x60 with the Kangaroo position control module, I've only got 1 motor on a test bench using the kangaroo plugin that Sir wrote.
At the moment I have used race07 and FSX all seems to be going well. I will shortly run the 2 motors under load on a 2dof rig.

Have a look at the kangaroo controller, at least using all Dim Eng hardware you have a better change if you have problems.

Compared to the cost of the Sysren the K's are quite cheap.

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Re: Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby jsmith2307 » Sat 14. Sep 2013, 15:45

Greetings, :D
Telfel, thanks for the response. I'll take a look see at the Kangaroo!
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Re: Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby jsmith2307 » Tue 1. Oct 2013, 18:51

Greetings telfel, :D
I just received two Kangaroo x2s plus (they threw it in because I was one of "the first one hundred users") a DElink 2 usb to serial converter and two servo pigtails necessary to connect the Kangaroo x 2 to a Windows PC for tweaking, testing, control from PC and firmware updates.... I have some reading ahead of me! I'll let you know how it goes!
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Re: Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby Mertensbart20 » Sat 1. Mar 2014, 18:59

Hello Js,

I was wondering if you got your Syren50 working with the kangaroo x2? I have the kangaroo x2 working perfectly with a sabretooth 2x25 but it keeps giving me problems with the Syren10. Does it work with the Syren50?

Keep up the good work and thanks in advance for your answer,
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Re: Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby jsmith2307 » Wed 12. Mar 2014, 18:30

Greetings Bart, :D
I've been playing around with Syren 50 and Kangaroo x2 with no results, for 3 months . After a brief conversation with Charleen of Dimension Engineering, I found that one on the Kangaroos was defective. A new one is in the mail. On a small motor, (not the wheelchair motor) I've initiated "teach mode" and had excellent results......more to come when I hook up the real motor!
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Re: Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby Mertensbart20 » Wed 12. Mar 2014, 19:12

Hello Js,

The problem with the Syren10 was that it had an old firmware. I send the syren10's to dimension engineering where they will flash the new firmware. The MFG date of the syren10 needs to be at least 18/13 or later.

And handy to know that the kangaroo x2 can count 200 000 pulses per second.

Thanks fo the answer,
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Re: Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby jsmith2307 » Wed 12. Mar 2014, 19:25

Greetings, :D
Who did you speak with? My manufacture date on the SyRen 50 is (MFG 34/13). I wonder if I need to send them back and have them flashed.
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Re: Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby Mertensbart20 » Wed 12. Mar 2014, 19:31

I talked to Charleen. I think it is a specific problem with the Syren10. I have two sabertooth 2x25 that are much older than the syren10's my school bought and they worked just fine with the kangaroo x2.

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Re: Dimension Engineering SyRen 50

Postby RacingMat » Wed 21. May 2014, 21:54

Hi Bart!

PLease can you tell me if you needed as well the DELink2 to connect to your PC via USB?

jsmith2307 wrote:I just received two Kangaroo x2s plus a[u] DElink 2 usb to serial converter


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