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5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby faruk » Wed 12. Feb 2014, 16:01

Hi. I am 5D Cinema operator. I want to write/edit motion codes of my films.
I know the meaning of my codes, principle of my system but i cant find a software or a basic way to create this motion codes.
system uses 2 type of codes. 30hz and 100hz
30hz motion file has 30 line of motion codes for 1 second.
100hz motion file has 100 line for 1 second.

a part of 30hz code

(6 columns means)
x y z roll pitch yaw

2.9672 0.0000 -0.1671 0.0000 7.5380 0.0000
2.6182 0.0000 0.9017 0.0000 7.5332 0.0000
2.2798 0.0000 1.0142 0.0000 7.5284 0.0000
1.9553 0.0000 0.0002 0.0000 7.5238 0.0000
1.6476 0.0000 -0.2899 0.0000 7.5193 0.0000
1.3599 0.0000 -0.2578 0.0000 7.5150 0.0000
1.0953 0.0000 0.0708 0.0000 7.5110 0.0000
0.8569 0.0000 0.3642 0.0000 7.5072 0.0000
0.6479 0.0000 0.2531 0.0000 7.5038 0.0000
0.4714 0.0000 -0.4427 0.0000 7.5001 0.0000
0.3305 0.0000 -1.1990 0.0000 7.4937 0.0000
0.2283 0.0000 -0.6235 0.0000 7.4743 0.0000
0.1248 0.0000 0.0734 0.0000 7.4177 0.0000
0.0416 0.0000 0.1363 0.0000 7.2831 0.0000
0.0139 0.0000 0.0478 0.0000 7.0203 0.0000
0.0046 0.0000 -1.3575 0.0000 6.5855 0.0000
0.0015 0.0000 -1.8988 0.0000 5.9559 0.0000
0.0005 0.0000 -0.3311 0.0000 5.1350 0.0000
0.0002 0.0000 1.5175 0.0000 4.1487 0.0000
0.0001 0.0000 1.6627 0.0000 3.0373 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 -0.0369 0.0000 1.8468 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 -1.6091 0.0000 0.6236 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 -1.3940 0.0000 -0.5889 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 0.3541 0.0000 -1.7518 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 1.6511 0.0000 -2.8325 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 1.1142 0.0000 -3.8060 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 -0.7359 0.0000 -4.6555 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 -1.8962 0.0000 -5.3727 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 -0.9503 0.0000 -5.9571 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 0.4245 0.0000 -6.4143 0.0000
0.0000 0.0000 0.7613 0.0000 -6.7563 0.0000


and a part of 100 hz motion file


x y z roll pitch yaw

3.411928 0.752203 0.000000 0.000000 -0.947913 0.000000
3.436345 0.755426 0.000000 0.000000 -0.933572 0.000000
3.460512 0.724181 0.000000 0.000000 -0.919316 0.000000
3.484430 0.656971 0.000000 0.000000 -0.905144 0.000000
3.508095 0.554915 0.000000 0.000000 -0.891059 0.000000
3.531505 0.421737 0.000000 0.000000 -0.877062 0.000000
3.554657 0.263542 0.000000 0.000000 -0.863152 0.000000
3.577551 0.088448 0.000000 0.000000 -0.849331 0.000000
3.600183 -0.093863 0.000000 0.000000 -0.835599 0.000000
3.622552 -0.272645 0.000000 0.000000 -0.821958 0.000000
3.644654 -0.436669 0.000000 0.000000 -0.808409 0.000000
3.666489 -0.574909 0.000000 0.000000 -0.794951 0.000000
3.688053 -0.677370 0.000000 0.000000 -0.781587 0.000000
3.709345 -0.735982 0.000000 0.000000 -0.768317 0.000000
3.730362 -0.745438 0.000000 0.000000 -0.755142 0.000000
3.751102 -0.703825 0.000000 0.000000 -0.742062 0.000000
3.771563 -0.612933 0.000000 0.000000 -0.729078 0.000000
3.791743 -0.478218 0.000000 0.000000 -0.716192 0.000000
3.811639 -0.308480 0.000000 0.000000 -0.703405 0.000000
3.831250 -0.115329 0.000000 0.000000 -0.690716 0.000000
3.850573 0.087461 0.000000 0.000000 -0.678127 0.000000
3.869605 0.284698 0.000000 0.000000 -0.665639 0.000000


Can anyone help me?
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Re: 5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby faruk » Wed 12. Feb 2014, 19:34

and here is a photo of my system. ( 6 dof stewart platform )

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Re: 5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby vicpopo » Wed 12. Feb 2014, 21:10

Hi ,
This will interest probably Sirnoname. ;)
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Re: 5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby sirnoname » Wed 12. Feb 2014, 23:04

I do not understand. You search a software to create what?
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Re: 5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby faruk » Thu 13. Feb 2014, 11:13

Thans for your answers. I want to create motion codes for stewart platform. I dont sure how is possible with a joystick or a small stewart platform like a joystick or a virtual stewart platform. First i have to track motion codes like i send a part of it. It will be synchronized with 5d movie.
Difference of 5d simulator and race simulator is that in race simulators the game gives motion codes to your platform. every game it changes with your play. but in 5d cinema you write a motion file for a film, load it in motion data and then platform moves when you play 5d movie.
I hope to explain with my less english :)

here is a video explains 5d cinema

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Re: 5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby sirnoname » Thu 13. Feb 2014, 11:34

Motion code is three accelerations and exact rotations. From this you get the missing ones like rotation acceleration or speed.

Example:
With this plugin you can create with a joystick motion codes:
http://www.x-sim.de/manual/video_plugin.html
Or import them from excel and cut them to the correct size for start and end of the video film.
This plugin offers joystick input with offset, so your own delay will be removed.
However, best is to import real motion instead of build your own. D-Box has encrypted own motion codes for many films.
By the way, there is some special hidden development at the moment with this video plugin ;)
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Re: 5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby faruk » Thu 13. Feb 2014, 11:39

i tried to use video plugin for xsim but i cant. I dont understand this step.

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wants me to import motion data. Which data should i import?

I dont know d-box. how can i try it? is it a software?
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Re: 5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby sirnoname » Thu 13. Feb 2014, 12:38

You can import any data that is in csv format, simple txt file with comma as seperator.
With the morph option you can tell the import to fit it to the video signal.
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Re: 5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby faruk » Thu 13. Feb 2014, 13:21

I didnt see morph option. what is it exactly mean? I think this plugin tracks motion from video frame position without joystick. but i dont understand what i should write to csv file.
It is too hard to play a movie with joystick :) maybe i can do it with slow motion. But i think i need a joystick like this

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Re: 5D Cinema Motion Codes

Postby sirnoname » Thu 13. Feb 2014, 13:29

Of course not, you need to make one telemetry data after the next one. The telemetry data does not represent the exact actuator movement, it represents the feeling of the person. The actuator movement is controlled by the converter software. The csv is, for example, a output file of motec telemetry data of a car or a plane or a motion logger of your smartphone.
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